Please refrain from editing pages without stating accurate sources. Hypothetical information is not to be added to the wiki. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 06:05, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sound Four

You are unnecessarily trying to find reasons why one group is stronger than another. One group is dead, the other is not. That's all that matters. Your reasoning is also flawed; the Sound Four needed the cursed seals to counteract the Retrieval Team's help, but the Retrieval Team didn't need help until after the Sound Four activated their cursed seals. ~SnapperTo 22:54, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

That depends on your definition of "help", which we've already discussed. ~SnapperTo 23:07, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
But, again, you aren't being consistent. Who needed what help?
  • Choji - pills
  • Jirobo - cursed seal
Without "help", Choji would have lost. With "help", Choji won by himself.
  • Neji - none
  • Kidomaru - cursed seal
Nothing to argue here.
  • Kiba and Akamaru - Kankuro
  • Sakon and Ukon - cursed seal
Could Sakon and Ukon have won by themselves? Maybe, but their use of the cursed seal turns this into a case of what-ifs.
  • Shikamaru - Temari
  • Tayuya - cursed seal
Without "help", Shikamaru would have won. Without external "help", Shikamaru would have lost.
Kimimaro and Lee weren't technically part of their respective teams, so I'm ignoring them. Either the only illegitimate kind of help is external help, meaning only Choji and Neji would have won, or all help is illegitimate, meaning Shikamaru and Neji and possibly Kiba would have won. With both options the Retrieval Team has at least a 50% success rate, so your claim doesn't work. ~SnapperTo 23:27, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Sasuke Uchiha

First Please create new sections when commenting on my talkpage for something you wish to talk to me about, second please sign you comments when leaving a comment on any talkpage; and lastly i removed your contribution from Sasuke's page because it was poorly written in that it appeared more as thoughts and opinions then what should be on an article. If you wish to add something to the article and are unsure about anything you are adding i recommend adding it to the talkpage first and have others look over it first to improve it's quality before placing it in a article. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 23:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Block: SuperN

Seams like he has explained his actions. Now you two can solve your problem by yourself. Jacce | Talk 04:59, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Orochimaru & Akatsuki

Kagustsuchi please sign you comments.

Orochimaru joined Akatsuki soon aftre his defection from Konoha, as stated by Jiraiya. This happened prior to Itachi massacring his clan and therefore leaving the village. With this information it is impossible to say Orochimaru joined to steal Itachi's body as Itachi wasn't in the organization yet. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 04:12, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not disputing why he left, I'm not disputing the fact that they were both in Akatsuki at the same time. I'm telling you Itachi wasn't in Akatsuki when Orochimaru joined thus he couldn't have joined to steal Itachi's body. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 04:19, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Orochimaru defected from Konoha 10+ years before the start of the series, Itachi defected from Konoha ~6 years before the start of the series. It is unlikely that they joined Akatsuki at the same time, and even more unlikely that Orochimaru joined after Itachi. ~SnapperTo 04:33, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

And don't think I agree with you. The trivia was stupid regardless of who was "right". ~SnapperTo 04:36, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


Just to make one thing clear, has Snapper2 solved this problem? Jacce | Talk 05:58, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

You mentioned that SuperN has constantly been undoing other people's edits. Could you possibly give an example of him undoing an edit that was legitimate and did not need to be undone? This is quite a serious matter in my opinion, since I know SuperN as a reliable editor. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 21:54, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
I checked the Akatsuki page and could only find legitimate edits made by SuperN. Please link me to what you consider to be a wrongful edit. You can find the urls for specific edit versions in the articles' revision histories, for example this one. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:38, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Then show me where he undoes a legitimate edit. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:50, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
Those specific versions are the proof. Link to one in which SuperN undid a legitimate edit. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 22:57, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Kirin

Look at Kirin's Talkpage on the subject of Kirin vs Limelight. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 22:35, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I corrected the link. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 22:40, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
I linked it in my first message. It's here --> Kirin's Talkpage <---. Just click the highlighted blue text between the arrows. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 22:47, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
In my opinion, it's a debate that can't come to a definitive answer due to the nature of both techniques and the locations of their use. This is most likely why neither page was changed. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 22:53, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
How would you change it? Post it in the talk page of Kirin though. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 22:57, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
No problem. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 23:11, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Yes

I have checked some of the pages you suggested ShounenSuki to look at, and came to his conclusion. If you want to bring up old edits and older versions of a page, just go to the page "history" and choose an instant. The button is placed right next to the "edit" button. Jacce | Talk 06:16, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Block

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 04:59, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Jacce | Talk 05:08, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 08:18, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:29, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 03:57, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:47, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Rasengan

The Old Monk's Prayer There you go. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 06:44, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


He appears in the small flashforward of sorts in Homecoming, before the actual episode begins. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:59, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Snapper

So is this solved? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 04:01, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE:mangekyo sharingan

I checked the Mangekyō Sharingan page and it appears, at least for me, that Itachi's Mangekyo sharingan form is already there. ¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 23:26, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Invasion of Konoha

I hit the revert button to change the first edit, since there was another edit while I saw what happened, it must have reverted two edits. What I wanted to change was a split "afterwards". Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:25, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Tobirama

No I just did some few adjustments just to make it look better, look closely on the history please. KazeKitsune (talk) 00:13, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Naruto Uzumaki

Everyone has a nature affinity. It would be better to state he is the only one with a known nature affinity. - SimAnt 21:33, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

You said he was the only known member to have a nature affinity. Besides the point, I think its irrelvant for trivia since it will likely become obsolete. - SimAnt 21:39, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
Simant actually explained my reasons for reverting pretty well. There is also the point that the Konoha 11 are not an official group. The grouping is only used among fans. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 21:53, April 29, 2010 (UTC)


I undid it because the Databook said he only used taijutsu. That technique is only in the anime.--Deva 27 (talk) 06:53, May 9, 2010 (UTC)


It was shown in the Anime that the summon explosion came from Ibiki's behind. The bird then came out of it.

Here are some pictures to show you. Sorry for the werid color. (talk) 23:34, May 14, 2010 (UTC) Kuro

Re: Fuma Shuriken

What's the problem? He used it a few times. Once when he and Naruto fought Zabuza, once when he fought Itachi. He may have used it some other times, but I don't remember them. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:03, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

GoDai's theory

Please, don't but comments in the middle, it makes it hard to tell who said what. Also, remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). It was clearly said that Lightning and Fire making Blaze is a theory, since Blaze is an advanced nature that doesn't seem to follow the known patters for it. And you're a bit misinformed, or at least you didn't say what you wanted to say. All advanced elements are kekkei genkai abilities. Amaterasu was called a Fire Release in databooks, and Blaze Release is about manipulating Amaterasu, not simply using it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:25, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Itachi didn't have the same control over the Amaterasu flames as Sasuke has. He had no fine control over it. Check back to the chapters Sasuke invades the Kage Summit. Someone (either C or Darui) recognizes Amaterasu, and then later comments on how Sasuke's ability with it is greater than Itachi's. All Itachi did with Amaterasu was point, shoot and close his eyes/stop using Amaterasu to make it stop burning. Sasuke can manipulate existing Amaterasu flames and extinguish them at will. From all there is to know up until now, it all adds up to Blaze Release being the ability to freely manipulate Amaterasu. Like it was said, Blaze Release doesn't behave like other advanced natures. If it turns out to be composed of two natures, which I find unlikely, it is believed that those two natures are Fire and Lightning. Until the manga elaborates what it is and what it behaves, there's very little that can be said. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:58, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

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