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Since you apparently didn't check, here's quote from Banshō Ten'in:
In Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja Impact, Nagato can also use it to lift the ground and throw it at the opponent, called "Banshō Ten'in: Jidō" (万象天引・地動, Literally meaning: Heavenly Attraction of All Creation: Ground Motion).
So again, no need for article.--JouXIII (talk) 22:08, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
Except the claim was that it was named that way in the novel, when in fact there was not even slightest mentioning of Banshō Ten'in: Jidō in the novel. I checked. --JouXIII (talk) 00:00, March 13, 2016 (UTC)
Here. Nothing here mentions use of Banshō Ten'in: Jidō, or supposed "ancient Ōtsutsuki techniques". "Crimson Flame" and "Thunder Splitting Heaven and Earth" aren't names of techhniques, they're mearly descriptions of attacks that KinMomoshiki launced after getting power boost from Katasuke.--JouXIII (talk) 00:45, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Translation help, please?

Air Palm as in Vacuum Palm? 八卦空掌獅拳 Hakke Kūshō Shiken or 八卦空掌獅子拳 Hakke Kūshō JishikenSeelentau 愛 11:16, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

"RAWs are out"

Really? Where? And can you read them? :o • Seelentau 愛 08:31, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

The raw? As in, the Japanese raw? Not the Korean translation? • Seelentau 愛 18:31, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Seems like it's out of the blue.

But I apologize about the things I said in the past. I was wrong to take vs threads and etc so personally and take it out on you because of your arguments and opinions. Just wanted to say that. Peace. QuakingStar (talk) 17:10, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Truce, and may whatever be happening that is affecting you negatively be solved soon. QuakingStar (talk) 21:23, December 14, 2016 (UTC)


Naruto and Sasuke

"He does when talking with Boruto" Yeah, Sasuke tells Boruto he lost to Naruto, but he was talking about their philosophical battle. Their physical fight ended in a draw. "Not only that, the Boruto databook confirmed Naruto as the stronger of the two." [No links to scanalation sites allowed] "...as a warrior with strength equal to Naruto," so no, the Boruto databook confirmed that they are equals, not that Naruto is stronger. "The series is named after him, not Sasuke so why should they be 'equals'?" Same reason why Kaguya is stronger than Naruto, even though the series is not called "Kaguya." Take it up with Kishimoto.D.Phoenix (talk) 19:22, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

No, he lost the philosophical battle. They were both on their back with their dominant hands missing at the end of the physical battle, facing death from blood loss if they moved. They talked about their ideals and plans, and about how Naruto never gave up on Sasuke. That was when Sasuke said that he lost, because he realized that Naruto would never stop fighting for and against Sasuke, not until he returned to Konoha. Please do explain how Naruto would continue fighting when Naruto quite clearly stated that he could not move, and that both he and Sasuke would die if they tried to move again. Continuing to ignore facts, and misinterpreting the story to prove your point, won't fly anywhere.
"Not to mention he only 'matched' a weakened Naruto after getting a power up." surely you mean when Sasuke (recently revived and strengthened by Hagoromo, just like Naruto) used the tailed beasts that he controlled, to kick Naruto's ass sideways, which meant that Naruto needed a power up: all of the Natural Energy available, to match and survive Sasuke's attack?
You stating that that "Naruto is the main character" means nothing, because there are multiple people stronger than him, and people as strong as him. It is Kishimoto, not you, who decides how powerful Naruto is, and he has stated quite clearly that Naruto and Sasuke are equals.
You need to learn and understand what the phrase "twisting words" means. The Zai No Sho databook (Zai no Sho pp. 28) explicitly states that Naruto and Sasuke are equals, which means that it proves that you are wrong about Naruto being stronger. I put the link in my previous post, but I guess linking to image sites is not allowed here. (http://imgur.com/O0WfrlI) Maybe Imgur will work?
You are now resorting to using a battle (and misinterpreting Sasuke's words) that they had when they were 17 year old teenagers, to try and justify their respective power levels as 30+ year old adults. Sasuke says that he won against Naruto at the end of Boruto. Does that make Sasuke stronger? Don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question. D.Phoenix (talk) 00:29, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Conscious, barely capable of moving his own head, and would have died if he moved too much, exactly like Sasuke. Yes, that is a definitive victory right there. Naruto regaining consciousness earlier is pointless as he could do nothing anyway. Best attack he could have used was to spit on Sasuke. Check again, he was conscious and then fell asleep. He was not conscious throughout the night. Yes, Naruto was weakened by the war, the same war that Sasuke fought in as well, and the same war which resulted in the both of them being on the verge of death, being amped by Hagoromo, and fighting Kaguya. You were saying?
No, Sasuke never admitted anything of the sort. That is you misinterpreting his words and twisting the story and logic to try and prove your incorrect opinion. He said he lost, after Naruto said he would never give up on Sasuke. But yeah, Sasuke said he won against Naruto at the end of Boruto, so I guess by your logic, Sasuke is stronger now. Case settled. Good talk.
The name of the translator is right there on the page (Freedri). Ask Seelentau or Organic Dinosaur to translate the page if you want, but either way, it has far more weight than your opinion. Hashirama and Madara are not Naruto and Sasuke, any more than Obito and Kakashi are Naruto and Sasuke. Kishimoto made it that way. Naruto and are Sasuke equal and there is no gap. Kishimoto also made it that way, and he has shown+stated that repeatedly. Tough luck, but that is the fact, and no excuse you can come up with will change that.
No, he gimped them both by a stupid margin, but he gimped Sasuke more than Naruto. Sasuke had a Rinnegan he was barely used to, and he had to face a pseudo Ten-Tails host who got the abilities of all of the beasts and the mode itself instantly mastered for free thanks to that understanding ability of his. D.Phoenix (talk) 03:48, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
No, I can understand the manga and statements from the author without letting my bias cloud my judgement, like you have with Naruto, for whatever reason. "Naruto stayed conscious" is a useless point, like the rest of your words. Neither he nor Sasuke could not do anything. If Naruto tried to fight with Sasuke, they would die. Ergo, hypothetically, even if Sasuke had woken up first, the physical fight would still have been a draw. Naruto and Sasuke could not move their bodies, just their heads, so they could only talk. Wanting to fight does not change the fact that they were both on their backs, facing death from blood-loss, i.e. in the same condition. So no. You are wrong, as usual.
"Naruto fought for a FAR LONGER PERIOD." Yeah, no. The whole war lasted 2 days, and Naruto entered the war during the 2nd day. Sasuke entered the war that same day because he and Itachi fought Kabuto. Unless a FAR LONGER PERIOD to you is a few hours, which, given your poor command of the English language, it probably is, you are pulling the wool over your eyes and pulling shit out of thin air again.
Yes, Kurama explicitly said that Naruto was exhausted from the War. Do you know what else he explicitly said? Sasuke had just awakened his Rinnegan, so he could not use its powers effectively. Do you know what else happened? Both Naruto and Sasuke almost died. You seem to have a fetish for Naruto, so I understand why you are selectively ignoring the fact that both Sasuke and Naruto had handicaps. To you, only Naruto had a handicap, but Sasuke was in a peak, perfect condition. Get your head out of your ass.
Yes, Naruto can go Asura mode whenever he wants, except it takes a shit-ton of time to collect that much Natural Energy, even for Kurama, and by the time they are 30+ year olds, Sasuke has mastered his Rinnegan. Also, Kishimoto has explicitly said that they are equal. His words >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yours. Cry all you want about the manga being named "Naruto," or that Naruto should be stronger since he is the main character, or that you want Naruto to be stronger for whatever reason, but it won't change the fact that Naruto=Sasuke as per Kishimoto, the author himself.
Lol what the hell? Do you understand English, or the fact that Kishimoto himself said that Sasuke is an equal? Either English is not your first, second, third, fourth, or fifth languange, or you have a really shitty grasp of what the word "equal" means. It tells us that according to Kishimoto, Naruto and Sasuke are as powerful as each other by the time of Boruto, and his statement is proof, backed up by what happens in the movie. You are grossly misinterpreting one comment about Sasuke losing to Naruto decades ago. That statement was made when he was talking to Boruto about being a "Shinobi," which does not equate to pure strength. Unless you think Boruto will become stronger than Naruto (he will surpass Naruto as a Shinobi), or that Itachi is more powerful than Hashirama (Hashirama said that Itachi was a better Shinobi), being a better Shinobi is not the same as being more powerful. Your opinion on this topic means less than nothing. I am sorry to break it to you. Bringing up pointless arguments like who was conscious first, or who wanted to fight even though they would die from blood loss is a stupid argument, but I should not really be surprised, given that you seem to have a really poor grasp of reading, logic and comprehension in general.
Yes, my analogy about Sauke "winning" at the end of Boruto equating to him being stronger than Naruto, was ridiculous. That was the point, because Sasuke "winning" is not referring to who is stronger, something that needs to be spelled out for you from now on, since you seem to lack the ability to pick up on simplistic things like that. Similarly, Sasuke saying "I lost" is not about the physical battle they had, but their battle about the "Hokage." They fought for the future of the world, but Naruto only won hours after the physical battle was over, and they were both dying from blood-loss. Naruto had to talk to Sasuke (we call it talk-no-jutsu) before Sasuke finally saw the error of his ways, and that Naruto would always be there for him. So he conceded the fight for the future of the world. You are far too narrow-minded to see this, so I spelled it out for you, but I have no doubt that you will continue to cover your ears, conjure some more bullshit, and ignore the truth.
Also, your analogy about Hashirama and Madara is imbecilic. Yes, they were parallels to Naruto and Sasuke. Do you know what else was stated about Hashirama+Madara & Naruto+Sasuke? That Naruto and Sasuke would be different and have a different ending from Hashirama and Madara, which they did; that is something you failed to grasp, but that is beyond your comprehensive skills, so I have spelled it out for you. Also, did you know that Madara ended up being vastly more powerful than Hashirama by virtue of gaining the Ten-Tails? Yeah, your 'point' was utterly idiotic and a waste of time.
"You show nothing but Sasuke bias and twisted logic." Kishomoto's words (Sasuke is a warrior with strength equal to Naruto) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your baseless opinion. That is all that matters, and no amount of bullshit you pull out of your hole will change that. If you are going to continue to ignore Kishimoto's own words from the Zai no Sho, then we have nothing more to discuss. I have better things to do than to try and use reason with a troglodyte who ignores the author's own words. Have a good day. D.Phoenix (talk) 22:20, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, no. Your points are, as usual, ignorant and incorrect. Naruto was fighting continuously using Kurama's chakra, not his own, and Kurama stopped taking Naruto's chakra at some undefined point. It was not until the Obito fight that their chakras merged, and that fight never took an entire day, so you are still pulling lies out of thin air. An entire day is 24 hours, and 24 hours quite clearly never passed during the Obito fight alone. By that point, Sasuke had already started fighting Kabuto. Unless you can pull a figure from somewhere, you have zero proof that Sasuke conserved most of his reserves. He used multiple techniques that are noted to require a good amount of chakra, even with the EMS/Rinnegan. What do you mean Sasuke was in a better condition? Are you intentionally being dense? They both nearly died, were revived, and then amped by Hagoromo before fighting Kaguya. They fought at VotE after that. They were roughly in the same physical condition, because their near deaths+revivals were basically a reset button (physically only). Throwing around chakra wantonly is Naruto's style. So no, Sasuke was not "in a far better condition." The best translation we have currently has Kishimoto saying they are equal. End of story. Until you can provide a translation that actually has more weight, this stands, and you are wrong. The burden of proof is on you now. The rest of what you wrote is the same drivel that you have been spouting ad nauseam, and it fails to address any of the points I wrote. You never will be able to. Neither one of us is going to convince the other, so I am not wasting my time anymore. Ignore Kishimoto's statement if you want. Take care. D.Phoenix (talk) 00:26, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Sasuke has showed great skill in taijusu, far more than Naruto has, so please don't give that crap about Naruto being trained in it. Trained or not, Sasuke has and will always be more superior. In fact, most Naruto does for "taijutsu" is bombard you with numbers and go for simple punch or kick. Also, you really want to bring up stats. According the databooks, Choji's strength is greater than Kakuzu's in base form, but even with his enlarged fist, Kakuzu easily stopped his attack. Databooks are not that reliable when it comes to stats. Like I said, the way it says about Sasuke and Naruto in their abilities section is fine and do not change it or I will be forced to have someone lock. It is obvious no really agrees with your logic of Naruto being stronger. The only agreeable thing is he could outlast him if he doesn't just throw around jutsus, but all know that won't happen so... --Rai 水 (talk) 02:38, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
Oh there plenty of other incidents where it happened in the anime and manga like the fact that Hidan was on Kakashi's tail despite having a 3.5 in speed when he had a 4.5. Not to mention Kakashi had the Sharingan. That should've meant that Kakashi should have been stomping him, but the exact opposite happened. As for Naruto. That little taijutsu that was shown with Naruto while in Sage Mode was not impressive against the Deva Path. Who said the Deva Path had great taijutsu in the first place? His little taijutsu moment with Karui and Omoi was not bad, but not nearly impressive. Naruto never was really fighting Itachi. All he really did was dodge and block. His Sage Mode is a bit of a problem as he can sense danger and then with his enhanced reflexes and speed, counter, but I wouldn't say that it automatically increases his taijutsu. Like he wouldn't be able to do the same in his base form. I never said no one agreed with u, just that no one "really" agrees with u. You will not get a group of people to see it your way because it's not that way. Naruto and Sasuke are equal. Some will argue that if plot weren't in the way, Sasuke would honestly win, rather Naruto was aiming to kill or not. I'm not going to continue this. If you feel so strongly, bring it up on the talkpage, otherwise leave it be. Oh and Sasuke might have lost his taijutsu battles, but at least he showed a high level of skill in it. Naruto never got into a serious and/or long taijutsu fight. His thing is shadow clones, Rasengan, etc. --Rai 水 (talk) 04:35, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

About your argument with sasuke and naruto

Yes i belive that vote naruto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vote sasuke,but as adults momoshiki admited that all 3 of them are equal.So why do u think adult naruto>adult sasuke?

Madara's revert war

Since you also reverted the edits, it might interest you to comment on the topic I opened about it in Madara's talk page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:33, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Hi on the wiki, it's stated that the Moon's interior surface and essentially center are hollow because the tenseigan and civilization things respectively , but this means that the entire moon isn't hollow but only sections of it, ( I saw you contributed to the edit of the enviroment) but are there any sources to this, novels ect? were are currently debating how hollow the moon is on another wiki and I read this but was unable to find sources leading to the environment

May I ask why I can't put in this information even though it's valid? I have the reference and everything. --Stemadaca4977 (talk) 22:42, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

However, years after becoming Hokage, during his battle against Shin, Kurama noted that Naruto's battle prowess has become rusty, something that even Naruto agrees with Naruto Gaiden the Seventh Hokage: Chapter 6 Page 14

Reference tags

Just dropping by to ask you to pay attention to your reference tags. In your last couple edits to Naruto's article, you added quite a few repeated tags referencing chapter 33. The way you added them isolated means they appear in duplicate in the reference list as different references, instead of the same reference being used in different places. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:37, March 23, 2019 (UTC)

Ten-Tails Rinnegan

I would appreciate your feedback here https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Jigen%27s_Ten-Tails --Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 19:17, June 10, 2019 (UTC)

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